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je me suit fait avoir par des joueurs qui apparament jouer ensemble , j'ai prevenu winamax mais il en foute (point !!!)

 

Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 6 - HandId: #271750006816374785-25-1384121245 - Omaha pot limit (80/160) - 2013/11/10 22:07:25 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #4 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (1030)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (888)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (1156)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (5926)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> Muntu_K257 posts small blind 80
> patrix555 posts big blind 160
> Dealt to zengsch55 [Qd 6h Ks 5s]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> bobmarly folds
> zengsch55 folds
> Muntu_K257 raises 240 to 400
> patrix555 folds
> Muntu_K257 collected 560 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 560 | No rake
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (small blind) won 560
>
> Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 6 - HandId: #271750006816374785-26-1384121274 - Omaha pot limit (80/160) - 2013/11/10 22:07:54 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #5 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (870)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (888)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (1156)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (6086)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> patrix555 posts small blind 80
> bobmarly posts big blind 160
> Dealt to zengsch55 [Qc 5s 2d 7h]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> zengsch55 folds
> Muntu_K257 raises 320 to 480
> patrix555 folds
> bobmarly folds
> Muntu_K257 collected 720 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 720 | No rake
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (button) won 720
>
> Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 6 - HandId: #271750006816374785-27-1384121304 - Omaha pot limit (80/160) - 2013/11/10 22:08:24 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #1 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (790)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (728)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (1156)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (6326)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> bobmarly posts small blind 80
> zengsch55 posts big blind 160
> Dealt to zengsch55 [5d 4d 4c 8h]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> Muntu_K257 folds
> patrix555 folds
> bobmarly calls 80
> zengsch55 checks
> *** FLOP *** [7h Td As]
> bobmarly bets 320
> zengsch55 folds
> bobmarly collected 640 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 640 | No rake
> Board: [7h Td As]
> Seat 2: bobmarly (small blind) won 640
>
> Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 7 - HandId: #271750006816374785-28-1384121335 - Omaha pot limit (100/200) - 2013/11/10 22:08:55 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #2 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (790)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (888)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (996)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (6326)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> zengsch55 posts small blind 100
> Muntu_K257 posts big blind 200
> Dealt to zengsch55 [5c 5s Ac Kd]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> patrix555 folds
> bobmarly folds
> zengsch55 folds
> Muntu_K257 collected 300 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 300 | No rake
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (big blind) won 300
>
> Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 7 - HandId: #271750006816374785-29-1384121355 - Omaha pot limit (100/200) - 2013/11/10 22:09:15 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #4 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (790)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (888)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (896)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (6426)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> Muntu_K257 posts small blind 100
> patrix555 posts big blind 200
> Dealt to zengsch55 [Kd 3s 3d Th]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> bobmarly folds
> zengsch55 folds
> Muntu_K257 raises 400 to 600
> patrix555 folds
> Muntu_K257 collected 800 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 800 | No rake
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (small blind) won 800
>
> Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 7 - HandId: #271750006816374785-30-1384121398 - Omaha pot limit (100/200) - 2013/11/10 22:09:58 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #5 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (590)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (888)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (896)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (6626)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> patrix555 posts small blind 100
> bobmarly posts big blind 200
> Dealt to zengsch55 [As 6s 9h Js]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> zengsch55 folds
> Muntu_K257 raises 500 to 700
> patrix555 folds
> bobmarly folds
> Muntu_K257 collected 1000 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 1000 | No rake
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (button) won 1000
>
> Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 7 - HandId: #271750006816374785-31-1384121424 - Omaha pot limit (100/200) - 2013/11/10 22:10:24 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #1 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (490)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (688)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (896)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (6926)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> bobmarly posts small blind 100
> zengsch55 posts big blind 200
> Dealt to zengsch55 [3d Js 8h 9d]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> Muntu_K257 raises 500 to 700
> patrix555 folds
> bobmarly folds
> zengsch55 folds
> Muntu_K257 collected 1000 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 1000 | No rake
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 won 1000
>
> Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 7 - HandId: #271750006816374785-32-1384121454 - Omaha pot limit (100/200) - 2013/11/10 22:10:54 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #2 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (490)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (588)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (696)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (7226)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> zengsch55 posts small blind 100
> Muntu_K257 posts big blind 200
> Dealt to zengsch55 [5s Kd 8h Jd]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> patrix555 folds
> bobmarly folds
> zengsch55 folds
> Muntu_K257 collected 300 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 300 | No rake
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (big blind) won 300
>
> Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 7 - HandId: #271750006816374785-33-1384121467 - Omaha pot limit (100/200) - 2013/11/10 22:11:07 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #4 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (490)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (588)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (596)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (7326)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> Muntu_K257 posts small blind 100
> patrix555 posts big blind 200
> Dealt to zengsch55 [7d Kd 2c 2d]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> bobmarly folds
> zengsch55 folds
> Muntu_K257 raises 400 to 600
> patrix555 folds
> Muntu_K257 collected 800 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 800 | No rake
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (small blind) won 800
>
> Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 7 - HandId: #271750006816374785-34-1384121488 - Omaha pot limit (100/200) - 2013/11/10 22:11:28 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #5 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (290)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (588)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (596)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (7526)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> patrix555 posts small blind 100
> bobmarly posts big blind 200
> Dealt to zengsch55 [9c Jh 6s Ah]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> zengsch55 folds
> Muntu_K257 raises 400 to 600
> patrix555 folds
> bobmarly folds
> Muntu_K257 collected 900 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 900 | No rake
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (button) won 900
>
> Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 7 - HandId: #271750006816374785-35-1384121505 - Omaha pot limit (100/200) - 2013/11/10 22:11:45 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #1 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (190)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (388)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (596)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (7826)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> bobmarly posts small blind 100
> zengsch55 posts big blind 200
> Dealt to zengsch55 [Qd Qc 9d 5d]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> Muntu_K257 raises 500 to 700
> patrix555 folds
> bobmarly folds
> zengsch55 folds
> Muntu_K257 collected 1000 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 1000 | No rake
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 won 1000
>
> Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 8 - HandId: #271750006816374785-36-1384121518 - Omaha pot limit (150/300) - 2013/11/10 22:11:58 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #2 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (190)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (288)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (396)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (8126)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> zengsch55 posts small blind 150
> Muntu_K257 posts big blind 300
> Dealt to zengsch55 [3d 2h 4d 5d]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> patrix555 folds
> bobmarly folds
> zengsch55 folds
> Muntu_K257 collected 450 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 450 | No rake
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (big blind) won 450
>
> Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 8 - HandId: #271750006816374785-37-1384121527 - Omaha pot limit (150/300) - 2013/11/10 22:12:07 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #4 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (190)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (288)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (246)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (8276)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> Muntu_K257 posts small blind 150
> patrix555 posts big blind 190 and is all-in
> Dealt to zengsch55 [8d 4s Kc 5c]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> bobmarly folds
> zengsch55 folds
> Muntu_K257 folds
> patrix555 collected 340 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 340 | No rake
> Seat 1: patrix555 (big blind) won 340
>
> Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 8 - HandId: #271750006816374785-38-1384121539 - Omaha pot limit (150/300) - 2013/11/10 22:12:19 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #5 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (340)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (288)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (246)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (8126)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> patrix555 posts small blind 150
> bobmarly posts big blind 288 and is all-in
> Dealt to zengsch55 [3c 4h 5d Qh]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> zengsch55 folds
> Muntu_K257 folds
> patrix555 folds
> bobmarly collected 438 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 438 | No rake
> Seat 2: bobmarly (big blind) won 438
>
> Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 8 - HandId: #271750006816374785-39-1384121570 - Omaha pot limit (150/300) - 2013/11/10 22:12:50 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #1 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (190)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (438)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (246)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (8126)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> bobmarly posts small blind 150
> zengsch55 posts big blind 246 and is all-in
> Dealt to zengsch55 [Kh 4h 4s 8c]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> Muntu_K257 folds
> patrix555 calls 190 and is all-in
> bobmarly folds
> *** FLOP *** [9c 6h Ad]
> *** TURN *** [9c 6h Ad][2c]
> *** RIVER *** [9c 6h Ad 2c][Qh]
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> patrix555 shows [9s 7s Kd Jh] (One pair : 9)
> zengsch55 shows [Kh 4h 4s 8c] (One pair : 4)
> zengsch55 collected 56 from side pot 1
> patrix555 collected 530 from main pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 586 | No rake
> Board: [9c 6h Ad 2c Qh]
> Seat 1: patrix555 (button) showed [9s 7s Kd Jh] and won 530 with One pair : 9
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (big blind) showed [Kh 4h 4s 8c] and won 56 with One pair : 4
>
> Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 8 - HandId: #271750006816374785-40-1384121587 - Omaha pot limit (150/300) - 2013/11/10 22:13:07 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #2 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (530)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (288)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (56)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (8126)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> zengsch55 posts small blind 56 and is all-in
> Muntu_K257 posts big blind 300
> Dealt to zengsch55 [Jc 7d Ks 5d]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> patrix555 folds
> bobmarly folds
> *** FLOP *** [8d Td 4d]
> *** TURN *** [8d Td 4d][Qs]
> *** RIVER *** [8d Td 4d Qs][6d]
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> zengsch55 shows [Jc 7d Ks 5d] (Straight flush 8)
> Muntu_K257 shows [6h 2c 7c Ts] (Two pairs : Tens and 6)
> Muntu_K257 collected 244 from side pot 1
> zengsch55 collected 112 from main pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 356 | No rake
> Board: [8d Td 4d Qs 6d]
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (small blind) showed [Jc 7d Ks 5d] and won 112 with Straight flush 8
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (big blind) showed [6h 2c 7c Ts] and won 244 with Two pairs : Tens and 6
>
> Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 8 - HandId: #271750006816374785-41-1384121608 - Omaha pot limit (150/300) - 2013/11/10 22:13:28 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #4 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (530)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (288)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (112)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (8070)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> Muntu_K257 posts small blind 150
> patrix555 posts big blind 300
> Dealt to zengsch55 [Jh 2s Qh Kd]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> bobmarly folds
> zengsch55 folds
> Muntu_K257 folds
> patrix555 collected 450 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 450 | No rake
> Seat 1: patrix555 (big blind) won 450
>
> Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 8 - HandId: #271750006816374785-42-1384121631 - Omaha pot limit (150/300) - 2013/11/10 22:13:51 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #5 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (680)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (288)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (112)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (7920)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> patrix555 posts small blind 150
> bobmarly posts big blind 288 and is all-in
> Dealt to zengsch55 [Kc 5h Ts 7c]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> zengsch55 folds
> Muntu_K257 folds
> patrix555 folds
> bobmarly collected 438 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 438 | No rake
> Seat 2: bobmarly (big blind) won 438
>
> Winamax Poker - Tournament "Double or Nothing" buyIn: 4,65€ + 0,35€ level: 8 - HandId: #271750006816374785-43-1384121645 - Omaha pot limit (150/300) - 2013/11/10 22:14:05 UTC
> Table: 'Double or Nothing(63271729)#0' 6-max (real money) Seat #1 is the button
> Seat 1: patrix555 (530)
> Seat 2: bobmarly (438)
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (112)
> Seat 5: Muntu_K257 (7920)
> *** ANTE/BLINDS ***
> bobmarly posts small blind 150
> zengsch55 posts big blind 112 and is all-in
> Dealt to zengsch55 [Jc 2c 5s 8h]
> *** PRE-FLOP ***
> Muntu_K257 folds
> patrix555 calls 300
> bobmarly folds
> *** FLOP *** [3s 6s 3h]
> *** TURN *** [3s 6s 3h][Ks]
> *** RIVER *** [3s 6s 3h Ks][Jd]
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> zengsch55 shows [Jc 2c 5s 8h] (Two pairs : Jacks and 3)
> patrix555 shows [8s Ah 6c Kc] (Two pairs : Kings and 6)
> patrix555 collected 562 from pot
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 562 | No rake
> Board: [3s 6s 3h Ks Jd]
> Seat 1: patrix555 (button) showed [8s Ah 6c Kc] and won 562 with Two pairs : Kings and 6
> Seat 4: zengsch55 (big blind) showed [Jc 2c 5s 8h] and lost with Two pairs : Jacks and 3
 

Edited by zengino55

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Désolé, cela me semble insuffisant pour établir de manière certaine la triche et j'ai plutot tendance à faire confiance à Winamax.

Le gars peut avoir plein de raisons pour folder la main où il a juste 40 à rajouter (incompétence, miss click, maman qui l'a déconcentré, vengeance car tu as mal parlé de sa maman...)

 

Sinon, vu les stats des joueurs, s'ils trichent, ils ne sont vraiment pas au point et j'aimerais bien les avoir à ma table...

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ou alors il s'av une dent contre moi mais il n'y a pas que la main la qui est bizarre donc un miss clic 2  foi je pense pas

meme sens etre de bon joueur ou de bon tricheur il peut tres bien avoir un pote a sa table et avoir choisi de passer enfin moi je pense que c'est ca

 

mais winamax ma rependu il a folder pour ca survie dans le sng mdr !!! tt les joueur avez 1 bb  et il y a un cou ou le mec utg met tapis 2 BB ou 3bb alors qui a le big stack a parler derriere et il passe lol donc je veux bien mais il y a au moin 4 cou qui sont bizarre

effectivement dur a prouver mai il y des doute quand meme

bref sur wina cela m'arrive souvent en sng donc je ne vais plus y jouer en sng

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Lol@confiance en Winamax.

 

Le nombre de fois ou il y a eu des collusions avérées et ou rien n'a été fait.... Wam c'est pas PS (même si il y a pire que Wam à ce niveau).

 

 

Sinon pour OP : faire des fautes c'est une chose et ça peut allègrement se pardonner, ne pas finir ses mots et ne pas se relire c'en est une autre... vu l'écriture et les efforts fournis, tu ne donnes clairement pas envie qu'on te répondre.

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Lol@confiance en Winamax.

 

Le nombre de fois ou il y a eu des collusions avérées et ou rien n'a été fait.... Wam c'est pas PS (même si il y a pire que Wam à ce niveau).

 

 

Sinon pour OP : faire des fautes c'est une chose et ça peut allègrement se pardonner, ne pas finir ses mots et ne pas se relire c'en est une autre... vu l'écriture et les efforts fournis, tu ne donnes clairement pas envie qu'on te répondre.

 

ba!!! repond pas , je suis francais mais les faute n'été pas le suger, et je me suit relu sinon me serai pas excusé  au fait ta réusi a lire l'historique ca doit etre un exploit pour toi car c plein de faute  

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C'est pas les fautes qui m'empêche de lire l'historique, c'est la mise en page à chi**.  ;)

 

Sinon tu peux retester la fonction "répondre à un message".

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ca va etre de pire en pire comme wina s'en fou, les collution vont augmenter , deja que ca existe en cash game au casino , bref

Edited by zengino55

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déjà eu le cas il y a quelques mois, j'ai envoyé les HH's au support winamax qui je pense étaient assez parlantes y a jamais eu de suite.

 

t'attend pas a quoique ce soit de leur part par contre je rejoins les autres sur l'orthographe, utilise un correcteur stp ça piquera moins les yeux. 

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je en fou des 5e , c'est pour le principe

je suis daccord, c'est juste que le log était peu lisible je l'ai pas vu tout de suite ...

mais j'ai pas compris la preuve de collusion ...

Edited by Tostaky06

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Bon en gros t'accuses qui stp que je demande une vérification?

Le colonel Moutarde avec le chandelier sur la table de la Bobby's room ?

Edited by soxtea

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Bon en gros t'accuses qui stp que je demande une vérification?

dsl avez laisser tomber, c'est dans l' historique , perso je ne fait plus de don, il est effectivement dur de prouver quoi que ce soit. (meme si la bon ....

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je suis daccord, c'est juste que le log était peu lisible je l'ai pas vu tout de suite ...

mais j'ai pas compris la preuve de collusion ...

met histoque dans poker academie , et regarde les derniere main.

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Le colonel Moutarde avec le chandelier sur la table de la Bobby's room ?

bien de défendre la collusion, en casino j'ai vu de la collusion en blind 2, 4 avec 5 pote qui jouait ensemble et partager apres !!! et oui a 5 contre 1 au pôker c'est facil lol meme sens savoir jouer

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Si tu as laissé tomber, pourquoi up le sujet?

Et pour ton HH que ta posté, je suis désolé, mais collusion ou pas, t'avais des mains pour te défendre au lieu de te laissé mourir bêtement. Tu étais surement trop aveuglé par un complot, qui pour moi est inexistant, car si collusion il y a, il n'aurai pas volé certaine blind a ses "collègues", et tu aurais était le seul short

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