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C'est catastrophique que tout le monde se fasse voler son argent. On peut pas qualifier cette nouvelle de catastrophique quand on nous annonce que reprise = remboursement de tous.

Après c'est sûr que ça crée d'autres interrogations.

Mais nous pauvres isolés arjelisés, difficile de savoir comment ça va nous impacter.

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C'est catastrophique que tout le monde se fasse voler son argent. On peut pas qualifier cette nouvelle de catastrophique quand on nous annonce que reprise = remboursement de tous.

Après c'est sûr que ça crée d'autres interrogations.

Mais nous pauvres isolés arjelisés, difficile de savoir comment ça va nous impacter.

Tapie était sensé remboursé tout le monde aussi.

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Pour reprendre un post sur 2+2

If true :

Great news every body gets paid.

monopoly not so good.

PS should obviously run them seperatly and leave all the great things the way they were.

Another positive would be no more stupid childish restrictions on Pros playing each others site produced TV games, Poker After Dark, High Stakes Poker & The Game etc. Assuming they still make them.

Faut regarder plus loin que le fait que l'on va tous récupérer notre argent (nous l'aurions récupéré de toute façon avec Tapie). A voir comment va se passer le monopole de PS, faudrait pas qu'il fasse un PS bis avec juste le soft de FTP à la place -_-'

Je serai intéressé de savoir ce qui a fait capoté le deal avec Tapie, depuis le temps qu'on en parlait...et pop PS arrive comme ça, sick.

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Communiqué de Laurent Tapie publié par PokerListings.com :

Groupe Bernard Tapie regrets to announce that, after seven months of intensive work, our efforts to obtain final approval of the United States Department of Justice of the agreement to acquire the assets of Full Tilt Poker have ended without success.

Ultimately, the deal failed due to two major issues.

The parties could not agree on a plan for repayment of ROW players.

GBT proposed a plan that would have resulted in immediate reinstatement of all ROW player balances, with a right to withdraw those funds over time, based on the size of the player balance and the extent of the player’s playing activity on the re-launched site. All players would have been permitted complete withdrawal of their balances, regardless of whether they played on the site, by a date certain, and 94.9% of ROW players would have been fully repaid on day 1. DOJ ultimately insisted on full repayment with right of withdrawal within 90 days for all players– a surprise demand made in the 11th hour, after months of good-faith negotiations by GBT.

The legal complications surrounding the deal – specifically, questions surrounding the legality of the forfeiture under non-US laws – also proved unresolvable.

All of the key assets of the FTP companies reside outside of the United States. A non-US court well might regard the purported forfeiture as a “fraudulent transaction” and declare it invalid or deem the acquirer of the assets responsible for all of those creditor obligations. Given the $80 million purchase price, and the substantial amount of cash needed to relaunch FTP, those issues ultimately proved too substantial to overcome.

GBT is very conscious of the hopes it has created – among FTP employees that they will retain their jobs, among FTP players that they will recover their balances, and among the entire poker community that the world’s finest poker platform will be relaunched and bring a needed added element of competition to a world market that today is fully dominated by a single operator.

GBT cannot accept the end of those hopes.

For that reason, unless a concrete and legally viable solution is found in the very coming days to save the employees and repay the players of FTP, we will move to our own plan of action.

We understand from press reports that the DOJ may have entered into an agreement with PokerStars pursuant to which PokerStars will acquire the FTP assets.
If accurate, we can only assume that PokerStars determined that it was willing to accept these legal and financial risks in order to resolve its own legal situation with DOJ.

If a PokerStars acquisition of FTP means that all FTP players will be fully repaid immediately, we are very happy for the players, as their final and full repayment has always been our priority.

We only regret that such a deal would signal further consolidation of a poker market already dominated by a single player – an outcome that may raise antitrust concerns and that, in the long run, is probably not good for players and for the whole online poker industry.

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Vous vous rendez compte que PS a réduit les programmes de fidélités après la mort de FT? Avec ce rachat, on peut s'attendre à encore pire.

Edit: Vous pensez que ce rachat va être autorisé par les autorités de la concurrence?

Edited by Sn8ke

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en terme de concurrence c est assez particulier, il n y en aura pas!!

j aimerais bien voir l avis de l autorite de la concurrence US.

C est pas demain que PS et FT vont se tirer la bourre avec des promos pour attirer des nveaux joueurs!!

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Communiqué de Laurent Tapie publié par PokerListings.com :

Groupe Bernard Tapie regrets to announce that, after seven months of intensive work, our efforts to obtain final approval of the United States Department of Justice of the agreement to acquire the assets of Full Tilt Poker have ended without success.

Ultimately, the deal failed due to two major issues.

The parties could not agree on a plan for repayment of ROW players.

GBT proposed a plan that would have resulted in immediate reinstatement of all ROW player balances, with a right to withdraw those funds over time, based on the size of the player balance and the extent of the player’s playing activity on the re-launched site. All players would have been permitted complete withdrawal of their balances, regardless of whether they played on the site, by a date certain, and 94.9% of ROW players would have been fully repaid on day 1. DOJ ultimately insisted on full repayment with right of withdrawal within 90 days for all players– a surprise demand made in the 11th hour, after months of good-faith negotiations by GBT.

The legal complications surrounding the deal – specifically, questions surrounding the legality of the forfeiture under non-US laws – also proved unresolvable.

All of the key assets of the FTP companies reside outside of the United States. A non-US court well might regard the purported forfeiture as a “fraudulent transaction” and declare it invalid or deem the acquirer of the assets responsible for all of those creditor obligations. Given the $80 million purchase price, and the substantial amount of cash needed to relaunch FTP, those issues ultimately proved too substantial to overcome.

GBT is very conscious of the hopes it has created – among FTP employees that they will retain their jobs, among FTP players that they will recover their balances, and among the entire poker community that the world’s finest poker platform will be relaunched and bring a needed added element of competition to a world market that today is fully dominated by a single operator.

GBT cannot accept the end of those hopes.

For that reason, unless a concrete and legally viable solution is found in the very coming days to save the employees and repay the players of FTP, we will move to our own plan of action.

We understand from press reports that the DOJ may have entered into an agreement with PokerStars pursuant to which PokerStars will acquire the FTP assets.
If accurate, we can only assume that PokerStars determined that it was willing to accept these legal and financial risks in order to resolve its own legal situation with DOJ.

If a PokerStars acquisition of FTP means that all FTP players will be fully repaid immediately, we are very happy for the players, as their final and full repayment has always been our priority.

We only regret that such a deal would signal further consolidation of a poker market already dominated by a single player – an outcome that may raise antitrust concerns and that, in the long run, is probably not good for players and for the whole online poker industry.

On est sur un forum français, ce serait bien de traduire en français sinon autant mettre uniquement le lien.

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Désolé pour les joueurs de FTP. Mais de toute façon c'est toujours pareil avec Tapie : il te fait rêver pour mieux te doucher in fine !

Ce qui les a surtout gênés, c'est les 80M$ à mettre sur la table tout en ayant le risque tout de même de se faire poursuivre. Mais avec leur manière bien à eux de présenter les choses, je ne leur fais que moyennement confiance...

Mais LA chose positive, c'est que PS (pas François, Isaï ! :lol: Ok je sors... :sifflote: ) pourrait être intéressé ! Et là c'est quand même autrement plus solide que les bonimenteurs de la famille TAPIE...

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